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At the same time, pain also has another extended meaning, which is "to cause pain," which can be simply understood as... punishment!
Once you understand the meaning behind the name Pain, you'll know what Nagato's ultimate goal really is.
Shinichi Hyuga silently stepped out from behind Jiraiya, looking at the phantom image of Nagato. His hand, hidden in his sleeve, had already gripped a Flying Thunder God kunai, ready for battle.
Jiraiya isn't Naruto, and his "talk-no-jutsu" probably won't change Nagato's mind. In Shinichi's opinion, ultimately, everything will have to be resolved through battle.
If Jiraiya could change Nagato's mind with just a few words, then the Child of Prophecy wouldn't be Naruto, but Jiraiya himself.
"long..."
"Pain, what are Akatsuki planning to do?"
Jiraiya knew perfectly well that the phantom before him was Nagato, but he still changed his form of address when the words came out.
Or perhaps in his heart, he genuinely wanted to distinguish between the leader of Akatsuki and the kind-hearted disciple he admired.
"dawn?"
"doing what?"
"Of course, it's about making the world forever peaceful, without war!"
World peace, without war?
Before Nagato said those words, Jiraiya had already anticipated many different answers, but he never expected to hear this answer from Nagato's mouth.
Payne...
Xiao's ideal and the name Payne are so completely disconnected and don't fit together at all.
"For world peace..."
"But I heard that members of Akatsuki attacked a gold exchange in the Land of Fire."
"And... that Uchiha clan member was the one who caused the Nine-Tails' rampage in Konoha back then. Did you know about these two things?"
"To harbor ninjas like that in Akatsuki... Is what you really seeking world peace, rather than reigniting war?"
"If it were you... you should understand the kind of suffering that war brings to ordinary people!"
When Jiraiya received that answer from Nagato, his first reaction was naturally disbelief, thinking it was just a perfunctory answer.
After all, everything Xiao has done so far has nothing to do with so-called peace.
Attacking gold exchange shops, recruiting rogue ninjas from the village of Tolerance, and serving as mercenaries in the war—which of these actions contributed to world peace?
Nagato listened calmly to Jiraiya's question:
"Those... were merely necessary means to achieve peace."
"Isn't it perfectly normal to make some necessary sacrifices for peace?"
"As one of the five great nations, the Land of Fire should have a deeper understanding of this matter than I do, right?"
"You can't complain just because it's your village's turn to make sacrifices!"
Nagato spoke calmly, showing no remorse whatsoever, but rather with great confidence.
He genuinely believed that everything he did was for peace, and he wholeheartedly agreed that his ideals were correct and progressive.
“…”
"The attack on Konoha and the release of the Nine-Tails were also for the sake of peace?"
Jiraiya was speechless, unable to understand Nagato's thought process. Due to their different perspectives, what he saw was naturally different from what Nagato saw.
"Attacking Konoha is not the most important thing. The most important thing is to achieve lasting peace. Akatsuki needs the power of the Nine-Tails."
"It's just that... your Konoha took back the Nine-Tails for your own selfish desires."
"If the ninjas of Konoha do not interfere, the Nine-Tails will not go out of control and rampage."
"You don't need to worry that Akatsuki is targeting your Konoha Village. In fact, Akatsuki needs the power of all the Tailed Beasts."
"As long as you cooperate obediently, no ordinary people will be injured or killed."
Nagato argued vehemently, shifting the blame for the Nine-Tails' rampage back to Konoha, claiming that Konoha's reluctance to release the Nine-Tails led to the tragedy of the tailed beast's rampage.
Jiraiya was taken aback by this statement and was momentarily speechless.
"you...."
"Are all the Tailed Beasts the targets of Akatsuki's hunting?"
Are you planning to start a ninja world war?
Jiraiya frowned, somewhat unable to follow Nagato's train of thought. Although he didn't understand Nagato, Jiraiya knew what would happen if Akatsuki really intended to collect all the tailed beasts.
No country can give up its Tailed Beasts and Jinchūriki, because they are vital forces protecting the nation. Losing the Tailed Beasts would lead to an imbalance of power between countries and could reignite wars.
"Start a ninja world war?"
"When did I say I was going to start a ninja world war?"
"We Akatsuki only need the power of the Tailed Beasts to achieve peace. Shouldn't you five great nations make some sacrifices for the sake of peace?"
"Why did the Shinobi World War happen? Wasn't it because you, as the Five Great Nations, were unwilling to make sacrifices?"
Nagato didn't think there was anything wrong with him collecting the Tailed Beasts; they were essential to the plan.
In his view, the five great nations' practice of hiding the tailed beasts in their hands as weapons is an obstacle to "peace".
Only then did Jiraiya finally come to his senses; Nagato was completely absorbed in his ideals and couldn't extricate himself.
"What happens after we obtain the Tailed Beasts? And how do we achieve peace after obtaining them?"
Jiraiya changed his mind and continued to ask Nagato what he was ultimately planning to do.
"To cause pain to everyone..."
"If everyone remembers the pain that war brings, there will be no more war in this world!"
"The reason why wars still occur is simply because some people have not truly experienced the pain that war brings!"
Why are those who yearn for peace often people who have experienced suffering?
Why would anyone not want peace?
"There is only one answer... those people have not experienced real suffering."
"Or rather... the pain wasn't enough!"
A fervent glint flashed within the illusory Rinnegan; Nagato's understanding of war stemmed entirely from his own personal experience.
He assumed that everyone else was like him, that once they had personally experienced and felt pain, they would yearn for true peace.
The power of the tailed beasts is what allows him to realize his ideals; the war weapons that can wipe out hundreds of millions of people in an instant are what enable him to achieve his ideals.
"Feeling pain."
"Thinking about pain."
"Accept the pain."
"Understanding pain."
"Those who do not understand pain cannot understand true peace!"
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Chapter 156 The Ultimate Skill
The illusory image of Nagato was filled with fanaticism. He viewed the world through the lens of his own experience and believed from the bottom of his heart that only when everyone could truly feel pain could the world usher in true peace.
Looking at Nagato, who was completely absorbed in his ideals, Jiraiya's eyes were filled not only with disappointment, but also with deep guilt and self-blame.
In fact, Jiraiya had noticed Nagato's sensitivity and intelligence long before, when he was teaching Nagato, Yahiko, and Konan. At that time, Nagato had just experienced the loss of his family and often pondered and reflected on why people fight.
However, wrapped in friendship and mentorship, Nagato's thoughts are ultimately positive and constructive.
Jiraiya knew that Nagato's current state of mind was closely related to his experiences over the years. The child of prophecy, whom he regarded as capable of changing the chaotic environment of the ninja world, had grown into this state, and Jiraiya felt that it was because he had not been a qualified teacher.
He failed to guide these children onto the right path.
Therefore, seeing Nagato's behavior at this moment, Jiraiya felt even more guilty than disappointed in Nagato.
Stop killing with killing...
Ultimately, Nagato's ideal of peace could not escape the ninja's fateful cycle.
Jiraiya's gaze darkened slightly as he looked at the fanatical image of Nagato and spoke:
"In the long history of the ninja world, the most tragic period was the Warring States period."
"The ninjas who lived during that period must have all experienced what you call 'pain,' right?"
"In order to restore peace to the world, the Senju and Uchiha clans joined forces to establish the ninja village."
"As the situation in the Land of Fire stabilized, more and more ninja clans recognized the importance of peace and successively united to establish different ninja villages."
"It was only at that time that the brutal Warring States period came to an end."
"However, not long after the establishment of the ninja village system, the world was plunged back into war..."
"The existence of the ninja village system even allowed ninja clans to complement each other's strengths, enabling ninjas to exert greater power on the battlefield, making the scale of wars during this period even greater than the previous 'wars between clans'."
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